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Skip the Big Banks, Please – Part 2

In the last post, I told you all about the problems that my real estate partner, Michelle, and I have had with the Big Banks and how we want to discourage any of our clients from every giving them their business.

Now, I want to tell you some of the true horror stories that we’ve seen.

Horror Story #1: I had a client who was buying a house in downtown Phoenix back in 2011. Let’s just say that her bank had the initials “W.F.” Really, they should have had a T between the W and the F. We were five days away from closing and the bank, which had all of the information for months (this was a short sale) suddenly decided that they would not lend on this property because the HOA dues were too high. Luckily, I sent my client over to Jeannie Bolger at Nova Home Loans, who got it her underwritten, cleared and closed in four days. It was like watching a ninja clean up a the mess after a drunk, washed up welterweight started a fight with a bunch of angry cowboys.

Horror Story #2: I had a client who had been contacting her bank for three years trying to re-negotiate her loan in order to avoid a short sale. Let’s call the bank “Bank of Absurdity”. They ignored her pleas, so she contacted me to short sell. Once we listed and had a buyer (after about a month), she contacted the Bank of Absurdity to tell them the good news. They said…..wait for it…… that she would have to go through the process of attempting a renegotiation before they would allow her to short sell. Seeing no other route, she submitted the child-sized stack of paperwork only to be given such horrendous terms on a renegotiation that she had no other choice but to short sell. I’m not kidding. Her monthly payments would have been more than they were before. They pulled other such pranks for the next six months until we finally closed. But, I can tell you that they would have done much better to just renegotiate in the beginning.

Horror Story #3: Just this month, our clients struggled with the banks they chose. One was “WF”, again. The other we will call “US Borg.” In the first case, they never issued the Loan Status Reports that they are required to issue so that our clients can meet their contractual obligation to report their loan status to the seller. Not once did they call our team to update us on the progress of the loan. Only when my business partner (and a woman with the patience of an angel wielding a battle ax) called them many times did they send over what they were supposed to have produced at the beginning of any real estate transaction. The loan officer with US Borg delayed closing by at least a week because he was clearly over-worked and waited until the last minute to do everything. His boss was at a conference when we escalated that situation. The boss, by the way, never returned our phone calls. In both cases, closing was delayed. When you delay closing, much of the paperwork must be updated and the closing costs re-calculated and the sellers tend to get a little hot under the collar because, you know, their entire life has been put on hold because some Big Bank can’t be bothered to spend a little more money on customer service and a little less on their corps of Washington lobbyists.

Do I sound frustrated? Pardon me. I need a moment to re-compose myself.

Thank you.

In the end, interest rates and closing costs mean a lot more than some inconvenience that you or your realtor suffers during the transaction. After all, it is our job to take those frustrations on your behalf.

But I can’t escape the thought that it simply does not need to be this way. Our clients and the clients on the other side of the transaction should not have to be inconvenienced in this way. More important than a little transactional frustration, our clients lose time, money and market value because of the sloppiness of the Big Banks.

Oh, and in case you want to know, I have been in transactions with mortgage brokers that were difficult. But in every one of those cases it was because the other side’s lender was not on top of it or because our clients did not disclose all of their finances or lines of credit. Even in those cases, our mortgage brokers pulled them across the finish line.

So, that is why we always recommend mortgage brokers. There are five of them in our list of favorites, which we share with our clients. We encourage you to call them up and just see if there is a fit. They are all very qualified and very driven. Call me at 602-456-9388.

And, if you don’t like any of our suggestions, please shop around. But, please, please never use the Big Banks.

December 1, 2014by phxAdmin
First Time Home Buyer, Live, Market Analysis

Skip the Big Banks, Please – Part 1

For years I’ve been advising my clients to avoid the Big Banks and credit unions like a fly in your guacamole.

Don’t get me wrong. I’ll do my banking any day at a credit union over some national bank. In fact, I did move all of my banking from some Big Bank™ to a local credit union. As you can learn from Local First Arizona, the more we support locally owned businesses, the more we help our economy. Further, the big national banks don’t deserve our business, after tossing our economy off a cliff like a sad rag doll.

But, when it comes to loans, I can only go on my experience. And I have found that you will always do better with a mortgage broker than a Big Bank. If I really, really had to rank them, I’d go with a local credit union before any national bank. At least with a local credit union, you can elevate a problem to somebody higher up than some sad bank worker in a broom closet.

Still, from time to time our clients insist on using their Big Bank, even after our warnings. So, I want to take this time to express to all five of you who read this blog some of the intractable problems with the Big Banks.

First, a myth. Just because you bank with a company, does not mean you will get the best terms. If you take the deal offered to you by a Big Bank to a mortgage broker, you will probably find out that you will get a better deal. And, if you don’t get a better deal at first, it is only because the Big Bank has not yet had an opportunity to change the terms just in time for close due to some unforeseen circumstance. (Yes, this has happened enough times for me to feel comfortable leveling this charge.)

Second, another myth. Some folks think that if they go with their Big Bank, the bank will hold that loan and not sell it. Thus, you will get to keep all of your business in one place. While many Big Banks will continue to house their loans, there is a very good chance that your loan will be sold off.

Yes, mortgage brokers will sell off your loan. While that is annoying, it is not the end of the world. Its not like the Big Banks are really that good at customer service, anyway.

Problem #1: Bank employees are not typically as qualified as mortgage brokers, in my experience. When we have found a person at a Big Bank who is really smart and committed, we usually see what their own bank bureaucracy puts them through and we certain that they are probably quietly filling out a resume to leave this job to work for a mortgage broker. Many employees are not given a monetary incentive to do a better job. They work for salary, not a good commission.

Problem #2: The really big banks often split the loan and transaction process up in to little bits on a conveyor belt, so that one poor person is just dealing with one part all day, over and over again. They don’t have pull with the underwriters to solve problems and they can’t even see the entire process from where they sit.

Problem #3: Bureaucracy. These banks are so big that you have to spend ages on a phone tree and sometimes you don’t talk to the same person who actually knows you. This is true both during the home-buying process and afterwards.

Problem #4: Attitude. I will illustrate this with a couple recent stories next week. But, by and large, the attitude of the Big Banks is that you and I need them. They don’t need us. Can you blame them? This is the message that they got loud and clear when we bent over backwards to keep them from splitting apart (as they should have done) during the Great Recession.

For now, I need to take a deep breath and do some yoga. If you want to see the second installment of this tirade, have a look here.**

 

**NOTE: My friend Jeannie Bolger from Nova Home Loans added the following to clarify that loan officers with banks and credit unions don’t have to be licensed to help you with you loan.

“Bank and Credit Union LO’s are not required to be licensed – they are registered, but not Licensed.  They did not have to pass a State and Federal test to get the ability to originate a loan.  Nor are they required to take licensing hours each year like your and me to stay up to date on the guidelines and once again pass a test to show you are competent to continue to originate a loan.
 
The banks and CU’s lobbied to be “Waived” from having their employees licensed mainly due to the fact they have the call centers and none of those people could have passed the Federal and State test.  It’s expensive and the banks did not want to take on that expense and because they are so powerful they won!!!
 
So basically, I’m held to a higher standard because I am licensed and I have no problem with that.  Just know when you go to a Bank or Credit Union the Loan officer your speaking to is not necessarily Licensed and did not have to pass an Arizona or a National test to originate loans.  They could have been a shoe salesman at Macy’s 2 weeks prior.  Buyer be aware!!!!”

December 1, 2014by phxAdmin

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